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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 15:01:19 GMT -5
Yes, 1970. I just posted this link over on OSM and it hit me that I've never seen mention of these illusive cars on this forum. I thought I'd post the link up here for anybody that hasn't heard the story. True or not, it is definitely a hotly debated topic. aerowarriors.com/70dcd.html
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Post by Jcon on Jun 23, 2020 15:06:28 GMT -5
Interesting for sure!
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Post by BUCKY on Jun 23, 2020 16:03:25 GMT -5
Yes, indeed!
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Post by mrmike on Jun 23, 2020 17:01:20 GMT -5
There were NO production 1970 Dodge Daytonas, only 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbirds. Only 1969 Dodge Daytonas. I have this from a former Chrysler employee who had worked the line back then. Plymouth was too far into producing the '70 Superbirds when NASCAR pulled the plug on Chrysler's and Ford's aerocars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 18:54:20 GMT -5
Well, Mike. There are several individuals out there that contradict what you say your Chrysler employee stated. I'm not pro or con on the subject. If you read all the articles from MCG, you'll find there are guys that swear they have the correct paperwork to back up their claims. Whether it's true or not, there are certainly two sides to the story. Interviews took place with Chrysler managers, regional VPs, etc, etc. Even some of them have waffled on whether or not there were ever any 70 Daytonas. It's a pretty neat mystery, true or not.
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Post by mrmike on Jun 24, 2020 7:17:00 GMT -5
That is part of the problem today, too many people wanting their 15 minutes of fame. I have seen too many pictures and articles stating so called "facts" and the pictures provided show something else. Too many actual facts are being pushed aside because of someone else's need for a mystery. If they are waffling now, they were lying to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 14:40:58 GMT -5
Did you just reverse your opinion? I was kind of indicating that a few MOPAR executives have kind of waffled in their belief that none were produced. I don't doubt that some, or all the players on both sides might want to be recognized for their opinions. That's human nature. I don't recall which article mentioned that the cars were sent out for the conversion. I don't really remember where they were supposedly sent, but at least one of the owners of a supposed 70 Daytona said he had correct paperwork to back up his claim. I think he was the doctor that was in the military when he bought his car, or something like that.
As for me, the only way I'd believe the story, either way, is for all of the players to be in agreement. There are way too many doubts in either direction for me to believe either side. I'd have to see where both sides agree that the cars definitely were, or were not, produced. I doubt that is ever going to happen so I guess it's just a mystery to me. It's just another really neat MOPAR story either way.
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Post by tubbs on Jun 24, 2020 18:10:35 GMT -5
The car is real. It was a test car, I believe. As far as being banned, it was, what's hard to find is why the super bird was allowed to run, when the daytona was banned.
Here is a little tidbit, rumor has it the reason the rear wing was so high was so that the street version trunk could open high enough so you could get stuff in it. The hinges on daytonas and superbirds were different than other B bodies. Limiting its travel so it didn't hit the wing.
So in closing, the car is real but none were actually produced.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 19:33:05 GMT -5
I have read that about the height of the wing somewhere before. I didn't remember that until you posted it. I thought that was kind of a strange thing, but it does kind of make sense. Just more great MOPAR trivia!
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Post by mrmike on Jun 24, 2020 20:31:04 GMT -5
I didn't reverse my opinion. What I am talking about is how there are many articles written about Mopars and how much bad information is included in those articles now.
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Post by tubbs on Jun 25, 2020 8:25:19 GMT -5
I have read that about the height of the wing somewhere before. I didn't remember that until you posted it. I thought that was kind of a strange thing, but it does kind of make sense. Just more great MOPAR trivia!
What I wonder is if the street version wing is the same height as the nascar wing?
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Post by tubbs on Jun 25, 2020 8:37:57 GMT -5
I didn't reverse my opinion. What I am talking about is how there are many articles written about Mopars and how much bad information is included in those articles now. But how do you know what's bad info and what's good info is my question. Sorry, but that is why I take all info and try to figure things out. Unlike Galen who relies on data. A little off topic; I new a few guys that worked at Chrysler assembly plants. They put parts on cars that were there at the lines, door handles, black push knob vs chrome push knob, I know guys that worked at dealerships that would sell over stocked 6 pack hoods to customers on their brand new 69 383 road runners late in the year. This is also why I got out of stock, tired of hearing what went on my car and what doesn't belong. All in all, the books and numbers are pretty damn good, but I bet there are more of oddball cars out there than we tend to believe. If it isn't in the books, it didn't exist, I believe we have to relax on that statement. I am sure we all know of oddball cars out there.
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Post by mrmike on Jun 25, 2020 10:57:34 GMT -5
I have learned to pick out some of that info. If I see a picture of a car or part and it is described as something completely different, I question that source. I have learned over the years to deseminate what would seem as truth and what is questionable. I'm no expert and I have been wrong about some things in the past. Usually I won't go back to the article writer and say, "Hey, WTF?" Usually there is no address for comments or corrections.
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