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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 4:12:55 GMT -5
How many color choices were there for each of the "winged warriors"? Include not just the ever popular high-impact colors, but standard colors as well. Then, how many colors were there combined when you take into consideration that there were some colors that were actually the same, but had different names for each model?
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Post by tubbs on Jul 5, 2019 6:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 10:26:02 GMT -5
OK. Thanks for giving the info the way you did. It's exactly what I'm wondering about. The photo of the cars indicates that only 7 colors were available, but the color charts you posted indicate 18 to 26 colors were offered.
That's where my question comes in. Not that I've seen a 'Bird or a Daytona painted in any of the standard colors, but it at least looks like all the colors on the charts were available.
So, could a guy have ordered a Superbird painted Cordovan Poly or Bahama Yellow?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 12:46:57 GMT -5
I just ran into something that confuses me even more. I just posted on the "Show Us What You Got" thread that I got two new AMT '69 Daytona kits. I just opened the one I received today and was browsing through the instructions and the parts in the box. On the "Body Sub-Assembly" page, right at the top, it says, "SOME FACTORY COLORS INCLUDE Burnt Orange, White, Black, Yellow, Beige, Lime Green, Bright Red, Bright Blue Metallic, Light Blue Metallic." None of the names are actual color names in either the Plymouth or Dodge camps, but what really caught my attention was Beige being listed. Maybe I just can't recall it, but I don't remember ever seeing a "Beige" Superbird or Daytona. AMT obviously used more generic names for the real factory colors, like "Lime Green" instead of "Lime Light", "Burnt Orange" instead of "Vitamin C Orange", etc, etc, but they list 9 colors as "Factory Colors". The photo of the Superbirds doesn't include Black and I know I've seen photos of black Superbirds. Any ideas?
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 13:22:09 GMT -5
it's a crap shoot trying to rely on kit instruction guidelines. Research can be vital. The web is full of info. Google is my friend when it comes to finding info for my builds. The Superbird was apparently only available in seven colors: Paint color options included Alpine White, Tor-Red, Vitamin-C Orange, Lemon Twist, Lime Light, Corporation Blue and Blue Fire Metallic. All cars were also fitted with a black vinyl roof, regardless of paint color, to reduce the already labor-intensive time needed for fitting the Superbird-unique body panels.
The above was taken from this site: www.topspeed.com/cars/plymouth/1970-plymouth-superbird-ar10479.htmlThe 'birds in Al's pic above have the correct colors on them. There may have been some that slipped thru with different colors, as strange things were known to happen during Mother MOPAR'S glory days. ALL Superbirds had black vinyl tops, no matter what body color was chosen.
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Post by DusterEd on Jul 5, 2019 13:48:14 GMT -5
Yep 69 Daytona's can be had in any 69 Charger color. And Superbird only available in seven. But I have seen one mistakenly painted burnt orange metallic by the factory.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 14:12:14 GMT -5
OK, Ed. When I do an image search for "black 69 superbird" I get lots of black 'Birds in return. It's the sort of thing that confuses me. Don't ask me where I saw it because I already forgot, but I had read on the 'Net somewhere that 'Birds were only available in the 7 colors, just like you said. So why are there so many images returned of black 'Birds? Seems funny to me.
The reason I'm trying to figure the whole color thing out is that I'm thinking I'd like to have either a Superbird or Daytona painted in each of the available colors. Or at least I was thinking about doing it. A lot depends on just how many colors there actually are.
NOTE: Keith I won't ever use Google for anything, including image searches. I only use secure, anonymous search engines. I also occasionally use secure browser windows, different profiles, and even different browsers. I won't let Google have access to my PCs.
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 14:30:28 GMT -5
My mistake, Steve. Excuse me. I thought your post about the Camaro came from Google.
The above info should be available no matter which search engine you use. Keep in mind, some of the different color 'birds you see may have been repaints by owners that wanted a switch, or by some crazy quirk from the factory. MOPAR used a paint code back in the day which was '999'. From what I've read, you could get just about any color you wanted using that code...even Mary Kay Pink.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 14:46:17 GMT -5
Nope. My mistake there, Keith. I posted that Camaro link from my phone. Even though I use Brave browser on here I get responses/returns from Google. So even though I stick to my "no Google" rule I occasionally do read or share articles that are provided by Google. When I posted that "no google" allowed comment I was on my laptop and that's the real "no Google" zone. My bad there. Sorry.
And just to clarify, don't any of you guys think I'm arguing with you about the number of colors on the 'Bird and/or Daytona. I'm certainly not. I'm in 100% agreement. I thought there were only 7 or 8 choices of paint, give or take 1 or 2. That's why I got the idea to buy some 'Bird and/or Daytona kits. I thought I'd build one with each of the available colors. Then since Dodge and Plymouth share colors, but not color names, it wouldn't matter if it was a 'Bird or Daytona I used for each color.
My confusion and concern started when I started searching for exactly what colors were used on the cars. I kept running across paint charts and photos of cars that had more than the 7 colors on them. I suppose I could just stick to the 7 main colors plus black. That would allow me to do a car for each color and be able to afford it. LOL!
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 15:27:19 GMT -5
Remember, yer working with two different year models, Daytona being '69, and Superbird being '70. Some of the '70 colors were not available in '69. As DusterEd mentioned above, Daytonas could be had in any of the available Charger colors for '69, so that opens up several more possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 15:45:32 GMT -5
OK. If Daytonas could be had in any Charger color, why don't we see any of those colors? Is it just because nobody ordered them? There are LOTS of Charger colors, at least as compared to the base 7 or main 7 colors of the 'Birds and nearly all Daytonas.
I do think I'll continue with my idea of using 'Birds & Daytonas both and painting them one of the main 7 plus black. I'll need to compare colors to be certain which car gets which color, but it should work out OK. I'll just need 8 kits if I do it that way and I have 6 right now.
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 15:58:24 GMT -5
I just came across a Daytona clone, so that makes me think some of the online images may be clones of Daytonas and Superbirds, which could probably be any color the owner could think up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 16:10:01 GMT -5
Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that. Could be. Now that I stop and think, some of the "off color" cars could also be resto-mods or just color change during a restoration. I probably wouldn't change color but some other guys might. Anything is possible I guess.
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 17:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 17:14:32 GMT -5
Maybe it's the fact I lived through the 70s, but I kinda like it too. It has a certain flair that's kind if appealing.
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